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," but i don't get it. >> a much stronger reaction from former ge ceo jack welch who tweeted unbelievable jobs numbers. these chicago guys will do anything. can't debate, so change numbers. and from florida tea party congressman alan west. he put up i agree with former ge ceo jack welch. chicago-style work involved it. solis responded to the suggestion the numbers were cooked. >> i'm insulted when i hear that, because we have a very professional civil service organization where you have top, top economists that work at the bls. they've been doing these calculations. these are our best trained and best skilled individuals that have been working in the field. it's really ludicrous to hear that kind of statement. >> let's bring in our "news nation" political panel today. john harwood and zachary ca caribel. thank you, gentlemen, for joining me. john, i want to come to you first because i want to play what president obama and governor romney said just a short time ago reacting to the jobs reports. let me play those first, both of them. >> there were fewer new jobs created this month than last
in conservative corners were arguing about the actual numbers. jack welch had a tweet about unbelievable jobs numbers, the chicago guys will do anything, can't debate because they change the numbers. he was on "hardball" with chris matthews and this is how he explained what's behind this analysis. >> i've reviewed 14 businesses this week from restaurants to rental cars, to widgets. i have seen everybody with a, a third quarter equal to or weaker than the first quarter. in order to get 873,000 new jobs, you would have to have a gdp going at 4% to 5%. the second quarter was downgraded from 1.7 to 1.3. the third quarter is not going to be very strong. it just defies the imagination to have a surge larger than -- any surge since 1983, a month before the election. i leave it to you to do all the analysis. >> you know -- >> one of the most important ceos of america, formerly of general electric does this ring true to you, speaker? >> actually since it's a survey, is this outside the statistical bounds of their survey, which is plausible, but irrelevant. what's interesting is you have a president, w
some were arguing about the actual numbers. jack welch made a lot of headlines with a tweet that said, unbelievable jobs numbers. these chicago guys will do anything. can't debate so they change the numbers without any substantiation. he was on "hardball" with chris matthews and this is how he explained it. >> i've reviewed 14 businesses this week. from restaurants to widgets. i have seen everybody with a third quarter equal to or weaker than the first quarter. in order to get 873,000 new jobs, you would have to have a g.d.p. going at 4% to 5%. the second quarter was downgraded from 1.7% to 1.3%. the third quarter is not going to be very strong. it just defies the imagination to have a surge larger than any surge since 1983 a month before the election. i leave it to you to do all the analysis. >> one of the most important ceos in america. formerly of general electric. does this ring true? >> well, it rings true to me. since it's a survey, is this outside of the statistical bounds of their survey, which is plausible but irrelevant. but you have a president who says last budget got zero
about the jack welch. do we have that confirmed? i don't know that we do. jack welch may have resigned -- >> we don't have it confirmed. >> this is how we do things on fx. >> tweet about it right. >> i read the story. a story in fortune that says jack welch has resigned from his columnist job at fortune and reuters in the wake of the conspira his conspiracy tweet. >> it appears that he -- appears he was miffed about the fact that those publications wrote stories critical of what he had said. >> i wrote a critical story. sister publication. >> just for the record was totally insane. >> totally insane conspiracy theory, one of many floating out there. the repercussions -- >> also in the same piece asked to see obama's birth certificate. >> yes. >> i think his college records he's looking for now. >> how will jack welch pay the represent now? >> we're all worried. >> i'm sure you'll be taking up jobbers and birthers in your -- >> just become 47%. >> i am open to take that job if they need someone. >> thank you to my panel, john, rana, kamal and david's ebook, "47% uncovering the romney vi
two years in several decades during this recovery. >> you know, jack welch, the former ceo of ge, he tweeted this because he didn't believe these numbers. he tweeted "unbelievable jobs numbers. these chicago guys will do anything. can't debate so change numbers." now, there are others who are suggesting there was political influence over the bureau of labor statistics that are driving these numbers, trying to make the president look good only a few weeks before the election. you're familiar with the economists, the statisticians who work there. what do you say to these folks who see some conspirator yal involvement out there. >> that's totally, totally insane. i'm friend with jack welch and i tweeted him back. i said, jack, i love you, but on this one you've just flat out lost your mind. there's an ironclad firewall with criminal penalties for anybody at the bls to have any kind of political interference or to release any of the numbers early. it's totally impossible to do that. you've seen all the reputable republicans that have worked with the bureau of labor statistics in the past
did come down. unlike prominent conservative jack welch who tweeted this morning, unbelievable jobs numbers. these chicago guys will do anything. can't debate, so change numbers. okay. tuesday he was a ruthless race baiter. yesterday he was a feckless delivery boy. today he's don corleone, and there's more where that came from. congressman west, take it away. >> you are alleging specifically that the president is engaging in a cover-up of the data. you are saying that the administration is actively manipulating that data, correct? >> well, absolutely. >> good news is all this conspiracy may open up even more jobs. demand for the manufacture and sale of tin foil is increasing as we speak. essential material for all those tin hats. here in new york jonathan alter, a columnist for bloomberg view and democratic strategist julian epstein and john harwood, chief washington correspondent and political writer for "the new york times." julian, so, the bureau of labor statistics is now to be lumped in with false memory syndrome, satanic abuse, and the abduction of children byu fos in terms of
nonsense about him being from europe and foreign and newt saying terrible things not to mention jack welch trying to undermine the latest unemployment numbers. he has dogs out there, romney, dogs that do the barking for him, and the priz doesn't even have nice guys and women out there making noise for him. your thoughts? >> first of all, i mean, i think it's pretty clear from the convention and from the debate last week, mitt romney is a shameless lying chameleon. he will say anything, he will do anything. the same is true with his running mate, paul ryan. unfortunately, we'll probably hear more of that this week. we do have a great surrogate team and they're on the ground in their respective cities or states. they move around. i certainly move around. you talk about deval patrick, i'm in chicago, rahm emanuel, stephanie rawlins blake in baltimore, kasim reed, the list goes on and on. we have the best candidate in president obama and vice president biden. we have the greatest surrogate team, and they're on the ground in those places where there are real people with real issues and real pro
. doug we talked about a tweet from jack welch. did that ignite the controversy? >>reporter: the recovery surrounding friday's release of the unemployment numbers continues to swirl after jack welch, the respected former c.e.o. of g.e. treated "unbelievable jobs numbers. the chicago guys will do anything. can't debate? change numbers." facing criticism if the tweet he stuck by the criticism of the numbers. >> this number is made up of a whole mess of assumptions: who is participating, who is not working, who is trying for work, who has dropped out. it just begs the question. i think there ought to be a good discussion how this number is calculated. >>reporter: most analysts and the obama campaign are dismanage the criticisms as "without evidence." >> we wonder why institutions in this country are, the perception of institutions are failing, because people go on tv and make sufficient h stuff -- make stuff up. >> they had full charge of the first two years and the policies this president put into place actually made it worse, including the fact that obamacare is tale, if you ask employers,
months now. the economic situation is getting better. >> i think it's the opposite of what jack welch was saying. we talk about jack welch and what he said and the conspiracy theory, but the thing is, he said given the economy -- >> that's not even what i'm getting at. >> people feel fundamentally better about the state of the economy. >> did i say i love jack welch? >> forget what jack welch said. i'm talking about people who are trying to say that perhaps people have given up. and if you look into the numbers of the bureau of labor and statistics put out, the number of people who are discouraged and have given up has gone down in the past year by 235,000. and in the past four years, by over 400,000. that number is being skewed out there by those who want to say that the job numbers aren't what they appear to be. long-term unemployment is still very, very high, but those people are still looking. >> the u-6 number for those cognizant. >> coming up -- >> you're right. republicans are in the dumps. you're right. >> no, they're trying to pretend the numbers that they depend on when they
. they will do a readjustment and the number will be 8.2% or more. >> last week it was former general chief jack welch, alan west and some right wing pundits making the allegation. we should remind viewers what got them so excited. the unemployment rate dipped below 8% for the first time in four years. until a few days ago, conservatives were claiming all the national poll, they must be way off. now that it romney's post debate bounce is fading, we'll probably hear it again. the latest poll shows obama's lead widening to 5 points again. the president was shoring up the vote. he dedicated a moment to cesar chavez. >> where there had once been despair, cesar gave workers a reason to hope. it's people. more than higher wages or better working conditions. that was cesar's gift to us. a reminder that we are all god's children. >> president obama dedicating a monument to cesar chavez. let's bring in ari melber. great to have you with us tonight. president obama is not taking his lead or his strength from the hispanic community. he wants more. play i playing to his base, how smart a strategy is it? >>
with numbers here. jobs numbers. a big supporter of your campaign, jack welch, sent out a tweet on friday after the unemployment report came out showing 7.8% unemployment, and jack welch wrote unbelieve jobs numbers. these chicago guys will do anything, can't debate so change the numbers. do you stand by this comment from jack welch? do you think that the white house cooked the numbers in the jobs report? >> well look, we're just going to talk about the facts. there's 23 million americans who are unemployed. they're either looking for a job, they are giving up or underemployed. if we just look at the numbers and take that for what it's worth, and i don't know that we have to say much more about whether the numbers have been cooked or not. >> the numbers are also 7.8% unemployment the lowest since president obama was inaugurated, correct? >> well, let's take a look at those numbers and take a little deeper look and say, for those who are not looking for a job any longer, they're not in the work place. they're not in the work participation. if you were to add those to those numbers, we'd have abo
that there is further proof that the economy continues to heal. others not so sure. jack welch tweeted this moments ago. unbelievable jobs numbers. these chicago guys will do anything, can't debate so change numbers end quote. martha: hilda so liz says that that notion is lewd today rust. joined by chris wallace anchor of fox news sunday . good morning, chris. >> good to be with you. martha: what do you make about the backlash for this 7.8 number? >> it's understandable, because it's good news for president obama at a time when he very much needed it. the fact is that he had a bad debate, that his campaign was raoeulgs a reeling, is an overstatement but hit a serious pothole. and the talking point, which is that the unemployment rate under this president has been over 8% for 48 months, they can't say that any more. and obviously some romney supporters aren't happy about that. martha: whenever you look at the economic numbers i always wonder. obviously as you point out the president's detractors will try to mine mice the number and the president will build it up. it's down to everyone's individual econo
are on the payroll of the obama campaign. jack welch, okay he is a conservative, but you still thought of him as still a pretty reasonable guy right? >> i always did yeah. he used to play golf with bill clinton. but now he's a whacko. yeah, that the obama campaign could actually doctor these numbers? come on. just accept the fact! it's working. peter is calling from miami. >> caller: hey, bill last week i wanted to talk to you when you were talking about obama and his performance, and one of the things i wanted to say is what would they have been saying if he would have been on the aggressive side, would they be saying there's the angry black guy? >> bill: you know that's what some people would have said for sure. >> caller: absolutely. but i was reading an article about the score for the obama, the deficit going down. >> bill: yeah and they always try to take the good news and turn it into bad news. >> caller: i know it's crazy. but back to the debate peter. it was not the president's best night. and certainly he has bounced back from that. >> caller: he didn't have to do
his anniversary on the night of the debate. >> peter: and interesting 7.8% number, economists and jack welch, where did this come from, the raw numbers put out and a disconnect. >> clayton: we have to look the at revised numbers a few months later and maybe find out in december what the true number was or were in september. but we have new numbers out of ohio. the all important battle ground state of ohio where president obama has been leading significantly there. in recent polls, well not significantly, but 5 or 4 points accord to go what karl rove was talking about, 49-50%. and looking at virginia, and there mitt romney has pulled ahead of president obama 49-48% within the mar begin of error, but definitely experiencing a debate bounce. and speaking of which, let's talk about the money they have been able to raise because this plays into how people are feeling after the debate as well. in just the 48 hours since the debate, mitt romney has been able to raise 12 million dollars online and just staggering numbers. >> peter: at the same time, the president announced that they raised 181
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